(05-19-2024, 07:49 AM)F Gump Wrote: One point about DJJ - in the right setting, I think he can become more and more impactful and valuable. There's a sweet spot for a defensive player, where he does his thing on one end, and on the other doesn't have to force the offense, but can still get some shots and score, and has others who know how to set him up and utilize what he does. I think of a guy like Bruce Bowen in SA.

(05-19-2024, 01:30 PM)mvossman Wrote: Best case where matching money is coming back.  Dumping THJ easily gets us the full MLE but making a trade where we shave 5 mil off the cap does not get us to the full MLE.  Probably because we have to stay under the tax line in order to get the full MLE (and apparently we want a 1 mil window under it as well).

(05-19-2024, 05:40 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral
Clint Capela is a name to watch on the trade market, per
@TheSteinLine


“Capela, who turned 30 on Saturday, will have an expiring contract next season at $22.3 million after averaging 11.5 points, 10.6 rebounds and 1.5 blocked shots this season. The presence of Onyeka Okongwu and potential arrival of another big man through the draft, with Atlanta holding the No. 1 overall pick for the first time since 1975, is expected to make Capela available.”

(05-19-2024, 05:43 PM)IScott41theMavs Wrote: Remember when we would have cared about that? Yawn.

(05-19-2024, 08:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: HARD CAP MATH - To use the bigger MLE at all, you can't go over $179M Apron 1, no matter what, so a team has to leave a cushion. Let's pencil in a limit of $178M.

Without counting Lawson, the Mavs already have 12 players at $173.537M. That includes Kyrie's incentives, all of which count on Hard Cap Math. They have to have at least 14 players (and likely prefer 15). DJJ fills one of those empty slots. Hard cap math says each minimum salary will cost AT LEAST $2.094M this year (there are minor exceptions to that number, but Mavs are extremely unlikely to be able to do one like that.). So that leaves 2 empty slots (Lawson can fill one of those slots if you wish) and 2 minimum salary players will cost at least $4.188M.

That puts the Mavs right now at $177.724M. At that number, you can either spend the taxpayer MLE of $5.2M (and go past Apron 1 with no barrier), or spend NT MLE but you only have spending room under the Hard Cap of about $0.276M right now.

If you trade THJ (either alone, or in a package), and the other team needs to salary match to do the deal, the biggest spread allowed is $7.5M, which then offers room for an increased NT MLE of $7.776M.

If you SW THJ, there's the cost of the dead salary and the cost of refilling that salary slot, so you gain $8.702M and now have the ability to spend a NT MLE of about $9M.

To get a bigger NT MLE via a trade of THJ (or anyone else), you have to find a team with cap room who won't have to salary match, and who will use some of their cap room to take THJ.

Everything gets easier if DJJ would take the $5.2M TxMLE, because then there's no hard cap until you get up to Apron 2 (about $190M).

(05-20-2024, 12:03 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral
Gordon Hayward admits he was frustrated with his role in OKC

“Disappointing with how it all kind of worked out. Certainly frustrating…I feel as a player, I have a lot to offer. Just wasn’t really given much of an opportunity to do that. I thought I would be given that opportunity.”

(05-20-2024, 06:42 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Yeah. I was shocked by how little he played in the playoffs. This was the 1st move I've seen by Presti that didn't work out. He gave up 3 players and 2 2nd rounders to acquire him to sit on the bench.

(05-20-2024, 08:36 AM)Smitty Wrote: The simplest way to clear money for DJJ is trading THJ as people have pointed out. Connecting reports from the past 18 months, specifically last TDL. A trade of THJ for Grimes makes a lot of sense. DET is a cap space team and has been linked to Tim. Mavs had interest in Grimes. He’ll be extension eligible and due a raise 25-26 season on, but fits the roster age timeline and plays defense. Can shoot the 3.

Turned 24 years old last week. Career 37% 3PT shooter on 5 attempts per game. Vs Tim who’s 32 years old and a career 36% 3PT shooter on 6 attempts per game.

DEFRTG
23-24 Grimes 109.1 | THJ 115.8
22-23 Grimes 114.2 | THJ 114.5
21-22 Grimes 105.0 | THJ 107.7

(05-20-2024, 08:53 AM)mvossman Wrote: I wouldn't use DFFRTG to compare players on different teams, but Grimes is clearly a much better defender than Timmy.  He is also a distressed asset as he had a really down year.  I like this idea a lot.  I would throw in a couple of seconds and maybe even Hardy.  Another thought would be Grimes for Green straight up.  I think that would generate enough room for DJJ and Grimes is a better defender than Green and more willing shooter.

(05-20-2024, 12:18 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: We have the 56th pick. Spotrac says the minimum salary with no experience is $1.16M. 

Wouldn´t that be the 2nd round pick salary? 
Can you still trade $6m in cash?
How about Dwight Powell* + two 2028 2nd round picks + cash for the Pistons TPE + 2025 2nd round pick.

That should take us to $173M for 12 players including Lawson + two 2nd round picks. 

$178.6M is the projected apron. So we are $5.6M below it. 

So a reasonable THJ trade could get us to $10M-12M?

Shamet has an $11M non guaranteed contract for next season.
Bertans has an $16M ($5M guaranteed) for next season.
Schroeder has a $13M guaranteed contract for next two season.
Thybulle has a $11M guaranteed contract for next two season.

How much that costs us is a good guess. Maybe stretch-waiving THJ is the easier solution.

That should get us to at least $10M as a starting salary for DJJ. I think he would accept something like 44/4 to stay. Unless of course some dumba** tanking team Bruce Browns him.

Doncic/Hardy/Exum
Irving/Green/Lawson
DJJ/Thybulle/2nd round pick
Washington/Kleber/Omax
Gafford/Lively/2nd round pick

I definitely think it´s doable and I´m sure Nico/Lindsay have people working on this right now.

Then you seriously know more about this stuff, so maybe I´m completely off somewhere in my math/legality.

*Maybe this is where we find out who is truly in charge. I´d hope the new bosses don´t have an unhealthy attachment to towel-waiver Dwight Powell.

(05-20-2024, 06:22 AM)Mavs32 Wrote: could you offer THJ and a second to Detroit for Fournier and then just decline Fourniers deal next year?  that would clear all of THJ's deal and then could you offer 4/45 to DJJ?

(05-20-2024, 08:36 AM)Smitty Wrote: The simplest way to clear money for DJJ is trading THJ as people have pointed out. Connecting reports from the past 18 months, specifically last TDL. A trade of THJ for Grimes makes a lot of sense. DET is a cap space team and has been linked to Tim. Mavs had interest in Grimes. He’ll be extension eligible and due a raise 25-26 season on, but fits the roster age timeline and plays defense. Can shoot the 3.

Turned 24 years old last week. Career 37% 3PT shooter on 5 attempts per game. Vs Tim who’s 32 years old and a career 36% 3PT shooter on 6 attempts per game.

DEFRTG
23-24 Grimes 109.1 | THJ 115.8
22-23 Grimes 114.2 | THJ 114.5
21-22 Grimes 105.0 | THJ 107.7

(05-20-2024, 08:59 AM)Smitty Wrote: Yeah it will "cost" something from the Mavs. My thought was the '25 SRP (TOR) which will likely be a high pick. Hardy is another option I'd be willing to send. Green I would not.