(05-18-2024, 12:57 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'm actually pretty confused where this love for Anfernee Simons has come from. He's a small guard at 6'3. Defensively has always been one of the worst guards in the league. As the main guy on Portland this year he was one of the most inefficient volume scorers in the league.

(05-18-2024, 02:01 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Seems pretty accurate.

His TS numbers are virtually identical to guys like Maxey or Fox. You trade THJ + Powell + unprotected 1st for Maxey? You still haven´t learned your lesson about good players on bad teams. Guess Gafford and Washington was not enough. Do it again, Al Bundy.

What in the world do we need Tybulle for? We are already a top 5 defense in the league, arguably #1. We are also by far the worst FT shooting team in the league. Simmons hit 91.6% last season. He´s also made the 6th most threes per game at 38.5%. I really don´t see what is not to like.

(05-18-2024, 12:57 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: The only guard I'm interested on Portland is Thybulle. He fits the idea of THJ for "someone making 9-10mil"  so we can offer DJJ any competitive contract this summer.

(05-18-2024, 12:57 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'm actually pretty confused where this love for Anfernee Simons has come from. He's a small guard at 6'3. Defensively has always been one of the worst guards in the league. As the main guy on Portland this year he was one of the most inefficient volume scorers in the league.

I also severely doubt he'd be happy to come to Dallas to resume a 6th man role when he had to deal with that the first 4 years of his career behind McCollum and Lillard.

We also wouldn't really be able to play Simons next to Luka and Kyrie at the same time, mostly due to defensive issues. And that's before even bringing up his contract. Simons as an idea is DOA.

The only guard I'm interested on Portland is Thybulle. He fits the idea of THJ for "someone making 9-10mil"  so we can offer DJJ any competitive contract this summer. He's also one of the best defensive guards in the league that won't cost an arm and a leg.

I like the Isaiah Joe idea, but I really doubt the Thunder are going to let him go for peanuts. Especially when he's uber cheap next year.

(05-18-2024, 12:54 PM)The Jom Wrote: Dinwiddie is an interesting idea. He could be a bargain at the minimum. Is somebody gonna throw money at him? Or is he perhaps a bandwagoneer rest of his career? If the latter, seems like potentially a nice addition.

(05-18-2024, 03:42 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I´m confused. Simons argument aside.

Thybulle has played 17 MPG over 25 career play-offs games. His career averages are 4/1/1/1/1. What exactly does Thybulle do, that Exum can´t? Has anyone watched these last 11 play-off games and thought: We need better defense? Does anyone worry about our defense tonight? No you worry where the offensive support will come from.

(05-18-2024, 03:42 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I´m confused. Simons argument aside.

Thybulle has played 17 MPG over 25 career play-offs games. His career averages are 4/1/1/1/1. What exactly does Thybulle do, that Exum can´t? Has anyone watched these last 11 play-off games and thought: We need better defense? Does anyone worry about our defense tonight? No you worry where the offensive support will come from.

(05-17-2024, 09:06 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I'm wondering where the assets to get such expensive players (both in terms of trade price and contract) are coming from. Certainly not from anything the Mavs have available to trade. The teams possessing such players most certainly aren't getting Luka, Kyrie, PJ, or Lively back (our goal isn't to make our team worse or more ill-fitting), and the rest of what we have to offer won't get you McCollum, Herro, Brogdon, or comparable players.

(05-18-2024, 02:38 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: Trying to sign Anfernee Simons seems kind of daft to me... why? Because Kyrie-Anfernee-Luka cannot play together and win playoff games.

Anfernee is a direct Kyrie replacement, so to speak, off the bench.

- Kyrie/Anfernee, DJJ, Luka, PJW, Lively/Gafford.

For the Mavs to spend $66M on players in the same position (Kyrie is $40M, Anfernee is $26M), who cannot play together (unless Luka is injured)... that seems like really bad roster construction.

I think Collin Sexton @ $14m would be more suitable for this... i.e., to purely replace Kyrie, and not play as Kyrie-Sexton-Luka... because Sexton's salary is $14M and not $26m. Right person, at the right time, and the right salary.

PS: I don't really want Sexton... but he makes a heck of a lot more sense than Anfernee, is all I'm saying.

(05-18-2024, 04:06 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: Are you telling me they have higher value then THJ/Green/1st? I can see maybe Herro, but the other two should be gettable for this package (maybe add 2nds).

Im not including O-max/Hardy. Gafford could be available for the right piece (i want way more of lively).

(05-18-2024, 04:02 PM)Luka77 Wrote: I'm confused by this as well.  Why does everyone think more defense is need and the Mavs can ignore the other side of the floor.  The Mavs offense has been putrid this post season.   

NBA defenses have figured out that you have more success when you double Kyrie and Luka every possession and let the other players try to beat you.

(05-18-2024, 04:42 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: The solution to the offensive problem is not to go get someone who is 1) inefficient, 2) not great at team play, and especially 3) a problem for their own team on defense. Hell, if that's the goal, just re-sign THJ at a ridiculous rate.

I'm not sure I understand this trend right now of having created nearly the perfect defensive team around Luka and Kyrie and wanting to torpedo that. Landlord and Lively manning the middle. PJail. DJJ. Exum and/or Green to help with defensive effort (if not results) off the bench. Maxi when healthy. With those guys next to them, Luka and Kyrie are playing the best defense of their lives, because they have those other guys to shore them up as they sell out their defensive approaches. When THJ plays, it hurts the team right now. When Hardy plays, it hurts the team right now. 

Should the Mavs work on getting one or two strong offensive players this summer? Sure! But guys who are below average or worse on defense are unwelcome in the most absolute of terms. Personae non gratae, period. And guys who are capable of creating their shot who are also average or better on defense tend to be quite a bit more expensive. Given how crowded the Mavs' cap is, I just don't see how you're going to get a guy like that, and especially not without losing DJJ as well, which could make any such acquisition close to being a wash. 

I think the only real solution for the Mavs moving forward is to have phenomenally great, no-worse-than-top-five-in-the-league scouting. Get the guys we need on rookie scale. I think there's a nearly airtight argument to be made that, given what's coming with Luka's supermax, the only way they're ever going to replace Kyrie's roles on the team is by finding the league's next Brunson in the next couple of drafts or undrafted free agent groups (and not losing him via screwing up his rookie deal).

(05-18-2024, 06:26 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Ya, not getting where the love for players like Sexton and Simons comes for, at least for this team.  Our needs in priority:
1. starting SF/PF (DFF upgrade)
2. backup PG/SG (Exum upgrade)
3. backup PF/C (Maxi replacement)

Notice THJ replacement doesn't make the top 3?  When you have Hardy on the roster, why would we spend capital to replace THJ?

(05-18-2024, 06:26 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Ya, not getting where the love for players like Sexton and Simons comes for, at least for this team.  Our needs in priority:
1. starting SF/PF (DFF upgrade)
2. backup PG/SG (Exum upgrade)
3. backup PF/C (Maxi replacement)

Notice THJ replacement doesn't make the top 3?  When you have Hardy on the roster, why would we spend capital to replace THJ?

(05-18-2024, 09:10 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Who's DFF?

I know it's not DJJ.