(05-17-2024, 05:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I know we threw his name around here briefly this season, but what about Isaiah Stewart as a future Maxi replacement? 6'8, can hit the 3, tough as nails. I'm enamored by his near 7'5 wing span.

His contract is a flat 15 mil a year guaranteed for the next 4 years but the last year is a team option. I know Detroit has had interest in THJ for a minute now. That's almost a 1 for 1 contract wise so the saving's aren't huge, but maybe that deal is expanded and includes someone else like the Blazers.

THJ to DET for Stewart.

Green+#58+2025 2nd rounder to POR for Thybulle+#32

Mavs get a little shakier shooting wise (to be honest are we really losing shooting with THJ playing like he has?) but plan a bit for the future. Get a higher pick this year but still in the 2nd round so the contract doesn't have to be huge. Save almost 3 mil and can offer DJJ around 10 mil which should be more than enough.

Luka/Exum
Kyrie/Hardy/
DJJ/Thybulle/OMax/32nd pick
PJ/Maxi/Stewart/Morris
Gafford/Lively/Powell

43/3.1
40/2
10/11/2.8/1.5
15.5/11/15/2
13.3/5/4

Roughly puts the Mavs at 178 roster wise with a lot of avenues to stay under that 1st apron.

(05-17-2024, 06:03 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: A Maxi replacement needs to do more than just shoot. Stewart has a big frame and can defend the paint but he isn't nearly as mobile on the perimeter. As unique as Kleber's skillset is  it would be easier to find a SF/PF that can play some of PJ's minutes and move PJ to center if the Mavs want to play five out or go small. I think PJ is already among the closest things to Kleber as far as the combination of paint/perimeter defense goes. And we have a decent sample size of him playing small ball five for the Hornets.

(05-17-2024, 06:18 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I disagree that Stewart isn't a mobile perimeter defender. He's quite versatile defensively. Some examples:



1st play of the video he contains Millers drive.


2:24 onwards he discusses specifically his ability to stay in front of perimeter guards, but he shows a bunch of examples of him being able to hold his own in a bunch of scenarios. 



Several cases of Stewart moving his feet on highly mobile guys here as well.


You may be onto something about finding a relatively bigger forward that can let PJ play small ball 5. Kleber's combination of size and mobility is rare. Hard to find a 1:1 replacement that makes sense. OMax could be that forward already though. At least I hope. 

Just throwing out some interesting names (and also trying to find a way to get Thybulle on the Mavs).

(05-17-2024, 05:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I know we threw his name around here briefly this season, but what about Isaiah Stewart as a future Maxi replacement? 6'8, can hit the 3, tough as nails. I'm enamored by his near 7'5 wing span.

His contract is a flat 15 mil a year guaranteed for the next 4 years but the last year is a team option. I know Detroit has had interest in THJ for a minute now. That's almost a 1 for 1 contract wise so the saving's aren't huge, but maybe that deal is expanded and includes someone else like the Blazers.

THJ to DET for Stewart.

Green+#58+2025 2nd rounder to POR for Thybulle+#32

Mavs get a little shakier shooting wise (to be honest are we really losing shooting with THJ playing like he has?) but plan a bit for the future. Get a higher pick this year but still in the 2nd round so the contract doesn't have to be huge. Save almost 3 mil and can offer DJJ around 10 mil which should be more than enough.

Luka/Exum
Kyrie/Hardy/
DJJ/Thybulle/OMax/32nd pick
PJ/Maxi/Stewart/Morris
Gafford/Lively/Powell

43/3.1
40/2
10/11/2.8/1.5
15.5/11/15/2
13.3/5/4

Roughly puts the Mavs at 178 roster wise with a lot of avenues to stay under that 1st apron.

(05-17-2024, 07:58 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: I think this is asking A LOT of Luka/Kyrie. They need another great ball handler to reliev the pressure on them. A 6th man like McCollum/Herro/Brogdon type player. IMO that's #2 priority in the offseason (#1 being re-signing DJJ).

(05-17-2024, 02:33 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: So, let me understand. 

If Timmy and Powell were available on vet min deals, you’d hold your nose and tell them to walk?

I think what you’re claiming is that both have zero value, or maybe even negative value.

That’s a silly take.

Is that right?

(05-17-2024, 10:00 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: DallasMaverick's post about THJ's value got me thinking... Lebron is always saying he doesn't have enough 3-point shooting on the Lakers. I could see Lebron being interested in THJ.

So, is there a THJ trade that makes sense between the Lakers and Mavericks?

(05-17-2024, 10:05 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: if LBJ stays in LA they are a win now team and would be in the market for the same kind of players that Dallas is looking for. Meaning that you probably aren't getting anything useful from LA.

(05-17-2024, 12:57 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: PG/SG-Anthony Simons.  I like it, but what about defense?  That's why I went with either Caruso or D.Daniels, to balance out Luka/Kyrie on defense.
SF/PF-I really wonder Eason's value right now.  He's buried on the roster and barely played this year.  I would MUCH rather spend the assets here.  Also, GG Jackson is going to be a problem.
PF/C-I'm good with Jalen Smith, but can he play the 5?

(05-17-2024, 09:06 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I'm wondering where the assets to get such expensive players (both in terms of trade price and contract) are coming from. Certainly not from anything the Mavs have available to trade. The teams possessing such players most certainly aren't getting Luka, Kyrie, PJ, or Lively back (our goal isn't to make our team worse or more ill-fitting), and the rest of what we have to offer won't get you McCollum, Herro, Brogdon, or comparable players.

(05-18-2024, 02:46 AM)JamesConway912 Wrote: I fully agree that a third ballhandler/scoring guard is a big need for the summer.

CJ would be the dream scenario, he’s still very close to being an Allstar caliber player. Almost certainly not gettable for us. 

The same probably goes for Sexton.

But I could see us be in range for Rozier or cheaper (salary/asset wise) targets like Schröder/Dinwiddie.

I won’t rule anything out but at this point I don’t see Hardy developing in much more than what we’re currently seeing. Hopefully I’m wrong, would still like to keep him around given that he’s still so young.

(05-17-2024, 07:58 PM)HAguiar95 Wrote: I think this is asking A LOT of Luka/Kyrie. They need another great ball handler to reliev the pressure on them. A 6th man like McCollum/Herro/Brogdon type player. IMO that's #2 priority in the offseason (#1 being re-signing DJJ).

(05-18-2024, 02:46 AM)JamesConway912 Wrote: I fully agree that a third ballhandler/scoring guard is a big need for the summer.

CJ would be the dream scenario, he’s still very close to being an Allstar caliber player. Almost certainly not gettable for us. 

The same probably goes for Sexton.

But I could see us be in range for Rozier or cheaper (salary/asset wise) targets like Schröder/Dinwiddie.

I won’t rule anything out but at this point I don’t see Hardy developing in much more than what we’re currently seeing. Hopefully I’m wrong, would still like to keep him around given that he’s still so young.